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Is Reservation in Higher Education Only Alternative for Social Equality?

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Keerthi said: (Fri, Nov 2, 2012 07:46:24 PM)    
 
Like a coin had two sides, reservation had its own advantages and disadvantages.

For example people in the villages, because of the reservation we can see them in high positions, as they came from low level they know the pain and they may work hard for the development of our country, also in India we had a disease of "caste", since reservation is present& since they are getting opportunity people who are down trodden can proudly stand on their feet.

Because of reservation many talented person get wiped away from their dream jobs, colleges as a result we are loosing gems this is leading to brain drain, which leads to drastic fall down of our growth. Other countries by using our brains they are heading ahead.

So ultimately reservation as well as opportunities should be provided on merit basis.

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Bedanshu Shekhar Mishra said: (Tue, Oct 23, 2012 03:56:16 PM)    
 
A Student getting better marks in Competitive level exams then other student fails to get admission but the later got admission in the most prestigious institution just because of his caste even though they have been studying together till their schooling.

Is it fair?
No it is not fair.
Hence there should be some criteria made for the reservation system.

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Bedanshu Shekhar Mishra said: (Tue, Oct 23, 2012 03:51:51 PM)    
 
Well we all know why reservation is being given to lower class people.

This is so that they can come in equality with the upper class peoples but don't you all think that this should be given to a certain extent for example if a child is getting reservation during school times and he is studying with the upper class students then is it necessary that the reservation should also be given at graduate level even though his status should have been equal to that upper class student who has been studying with him from the past 12 years or so?

No! Certainly not.

Hence reservation should be given only at one level either school, college or at services level.

Thank you.

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Santhoshini said: (Wed, Oct 3, 2012 03:49:45 PM)    
 
These people have been suppressed by the elites for a very long time and there are many first generation and second generation graduates in these families. So reservations are important in both schools and in colleges to a certain extent. But their economic situation should also be taken into consideration. A lower caste rich business man's son is able to get very good education for a very cheap price just because of his caste but an upper caste student who is in an economically backward situation does not get any support from the government even though he is better than the former. Is this fair?

We have something called the creamy and non creamy layer in OBC's. Why not in SC/ST/FC?

So according to me reservation based on economic situation is more relevant.

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Bijayalaxmi said: (Mon, Sep 17, 2012 05:46:51 PM)    
 
According to my opinion reservation should not be there. Actually this caste system was a important issue privously. But today's world is not like that. In this digital world no-one have any time to think about anyone's caste. Rather equality it creats inequality among different catagories. Now in many offices or banks there are most of the employees belong to sc/st even if the general candidate is eligible for this post. This is a shameless thinking that government saying that we create this system for the benefit of lower caste people, but they don't think that in today's era no-one is lower and no one is upper. Sometimes it is very sad when one general candidate who is deserving loose his job because of one sc/st candidate who is even not deserving.

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Manish said: (Fri, Sep 7, 2012 01:43:21 PM)    
 
According to our constitution Reservation was provided to the depressed classes during independence to eliminate the reservation system one day. But this system has taken a new face of using Castes and Tribes to get an opportunity which is deserved by a more efficient participants.

We should provide reservation only to particular generation like"Provide reservation to a Family up to two generations only"

So now this system must come to an end... now all Indians Should get the Right of Equality in Opportunities....

I am also against the bill for reservation in Promotions in government job.
Which will increase the gap between general class and reserved class.
Efficiency and merit should be the factor for these decisions not the caste or tribe.

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Nikhil said: (Tue, Sep 4, 2012 09:32:21 PM)    
 
I am from Bhagat famiy(megh), i think first we shall have to try finish casteism in india because it is thinking of all the schedule caste people in india that if the reservation ends then they will not get fair job interviews because of casteism as most of upper caste people hate schedule caste and it is truth because( i personally experienced it) and then finish all the reservation in jobs.

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Thatikonda Shankar said: (Fri, Aug 17, 2012 08:17:34 PM)    
 
People of India can be categorized in many categories, religion wise Hindi, Muslim, Sikh, Christian and if we go on regional bases then North Indian, South India, Pahadi (Hilly People). If we go more deeper we will find that we are divided into castes like Rajput, Jaat, Brahmin, Yadav, Dalit and I guess more then 4000 other castes.

I won't go further with Language, Urban Rural, Rich Poor, but the category which hurts me the most is the newest one.

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Shobhit Shukla said: (Fri, Aug 17, 2012 06:23:07 AM)    
 
According to me providing reservation in the higher education is not a very good way for attaining social equality. As one of my friend quoted above, this gives rises to several unfair circumstances when it comes to the case of ethical comptetion. Like, the importance of merit is lost as a result of which the output quality of the students is not that up to the mark. This also give rises to a sense of dissatisfaction in a part of the youth, which feels that his caliber has been of no use simply because a person from a different caste, not that worthy of the position, has been given the benefit. In my opinion, providing reservations in the lower education system of the nation would rather be a better way. Why I feel so. ? I would like to mention the positive aspect of such arrangement. A child is an unbiased creature. For him caste does not matters. When, children, irrespective of their caste will study in a system where quality education is given, irrespective of their caste, I don't think they will ever enter in such a caste debate ever and because the level of education would be similar, all of them will be equally benefited. So, I think that providing reservations on the ground levels, and strengthening the ground level education system throughout the rural and urban framework of the nation, will show a better impact.

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Vipul said: (Fri, Aug 10, 2012 05:18:11 AM)    
 
Reservation should not be there, all the reserved and unreserved are Indians. If sc/st gets reservation then other caste like general will be wiped out from good jobs. In general caste itself there are poor people as a result reservation should be made on the basis of income.

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Manoranjan said: (Fri, Aug 3, 2012 08:39:27 PM)    
 
Hi friends.

My opinion is that reservation affect our society. Suppose in poor class student he has more talent but don't admit in higher education cause of reservation. In that time the student more excited and finally he became terrorist. At last I want to say fact of reservation is wrong.

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Shivam D Best said: (Thu, Aug 2, 2012 09:56:47 AM)    
 
Reservation in India is given on the basis of caste, sub caste and religion, and political parties are using this method to get the votes.

We want reservation in everywhere only based on the collective salary of family not caste or religion.

What ever may be the caste or religion, he is Indian first and if he is Indian first and poor and needy he should be given Reservation Benefits.

This way only real and need people of India will get the benefits of reservation otherwise the creamy layer people of India will continue to enjoy all the benefits and we will keep fighting on issue like we need reservation or not.

Let's accept the fact that we need reservation and we have to see that Reservation reaches to poor and needy families.

For political gains and votes political parties will keep the Ghost of Reservation alive forever, so it is better we Indians keep an eye and see that the reservation benefits are going to real and needy persons of India based on the economic status of family not the rich class of Indians who became rich using reservation.

Always Support and Demand Economic Reservation in Every Field.

Always ask political parities and leaders why they do not support economic reservation, when it will help every poor and needy Indian.

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Devika said: (Fri, Jul 20, 2012 06:26:58 PM)    
 
According to me reservation should be removed from the system because general caste is getting affected by it. They are not able to get admissions in good institutes despite of having great talent in them. If government is really want to help backward people then, they can provide financial help to people who have great talent but financially week. 20 years ago it is needed but now a days time has been changed so say "No to reservation".

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Karthik Mallampalli said: (Wed, Jul 18, 2012 07:06:57 PM)    
 
Some of the people in this discussion are telling that reservation are useful for the poor people who are talented but they are unable to go take higher education. Ok then, the reservations should be limited to their financial statuses i.e., no reservation should be given in the case of allotment of seats in the common entrance tests etc. At present, the people who got 30th rank and the people with reservation who got 7000th rank are joining in the same institute. IS IT CORRECT?

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Babli said: (Wed, Jul 11, 2012 02:31:28 PM)    
 
Reservation was implemented by gov for equality of socially backward people.

In my opinion there should be certain restriction with reservation. A person should get reservation for only once. A person who have already benefited with reservation in his education, should not get reservation for his job.

Besides reservation gov should form more educational institution to help these communities, to reduce social disparity.

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Upasana said: (Thu, Jul 5, 2012 12:13:53 AM)    
 
We are giving entry in reputed institutions like IITS, AIIMS etc on basis of reservation is very harmful for the reputation of such inst. And also general caste is getting worstly affected by it and they are not able to get admission in good institutions. Even after being much talented just because of having so less seats.

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Himani Thakur said: (Tue, Jun 19, 2012 08:28:34 PM)    
 
I think reservation should not be removed because there are many children who are talented but don't have money to go to school. So due to this they have to afford education. But from reservation they are getting chance.

Already population is increasing. So govt can't provide different finance to all the caste people.

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Maq said: (Tue, Jun 19, 2012 12:34:47 AM)    
 
In my opinion, reservation is making our country handicap. I myself belong to a reserved category but I am against reservation. As we know that India is a country of diversity having people from various caste, creed, colour, religion, etc. So it is obvious in such a country that the percentage of people in jobs & higher education would vary.

It is not necessary that this percentage would be proportional to the percentage of population of these communities. So, it is not suitable to give reservation to a community on account that the percentage of people of that community in higher education is not as per their population percentage.

If everyone was given equal opportunity of education in lower classes, so why should there be reservation for some communities in higher education based on backwardness ?

Thanks.

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Alekya said: (Thu, May 31, 2012 11:10:07 AM)    
 
"RESERVATION" which is very hot topic now a days some of them happy with this and some of them feeling bad about this Because due to reservation brilliants are not getting the seat or job in the required field the reservation should be removed from our education system. To develop the nation- educating the people place a prominent role so that to encourage the poor&low caste people this reservation system is introduced.

But the thing what is happening with this reservation is a lot of people having reservation & poor are don't show much interest on education due to the lack of money& guidence so and so even government provide the scholarship facility. Most probably the people who are having reservation and who are in good position utilising this facility a lot so that the theme of the reservation is wasted. And the student who is poor but don't have reservation effects a lot with this reservation system. So that probable utilization of reservation may be help full but which is impossible.

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Ravi said: (Wed, May 30, 2012 01:45:37 PM)    
 
Solution to the Big Issue:
I think from the time the concept of reservation has started, people who have already been benefited with the reservation; their siblings, parents, future generations must not be considered for reservation as they must have already "uplifted the social status" of their family. which was the sole objective of the reservation. I personally feel that I being A Talented Young Male Middle-class Hindu so called citizen of India is being demoralized and being forced to withdraw my whole faith from education and legislation of India as it taught me since my childhood the "Right To Equality" which I don't posses right now. This content is not with intention for offence its just a suggestion which must be considered for recommendation.

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Chaitri Parikh said: (Mon, May 21, 2012 04:39:23 PM)    
 
According to me their is no need of reservations in education nor any other thing. A person should be selected on the basis of his talent, capability and not based on his caste. Every one should be treated equal their should be no discrimination on the bases of cast as that does not show a persons smartness & capability.

Reservations discriminates backward class people from lower class people which infect creates a hurdle in a united country like India.

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Abhishek Tiwari said: (Fri, May 18, 2012 10:29:50 PM)    
 
Yeah I know that in previous years there was very bad condition of backward classes and that's why "RIGHT TO EQUALITY" constitution was made by DR. B are AMBEDKAR;to raise the level of these backward class groups. But now time has changed and we are much educated than our forefathers and also left our narrow minded thinking. Now we are giving equal opportunity to these people in every field too raise their level which is good and right.
So in my opinion in presently there is no need of reservation because by this way we can't find the real diamond and also we can't develop. I want to give a ex. That suppose two students one belongs to reserved quota and second from general quota and after doing hard work second one got 180 no. And first one got only 90 no. And he gets a good college for study. In my opinion it is not good firstly he is not suitable for that college. Secondly after completing his education suppose he become a doctor or a engineer and he see his patients and give a drug which is not suitable for that disease at that time the dead person will not belong to reserved or general quota because now he was dead or suppose he make a bridge and after some time the bridge is fell. At that time the dead body will not belong to reserved or general quota and we will never reach the stage of developed so lets think about it my friends. If you want to raise the level of backward class so provide him and his family a free education, remove his monetary problems and make him in the level of facing competition. Thanks.

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Deepu said: (Sun, May 13, 2012 08:21:23 PM)    
 
Dear friends,

80% Indian population belongs to sc/st and obc and 20% belongs to forward cast. If there is no reservation in this country 99% of government job will be occupied by the forward cast. It is nothing because of their intelligence (their gene is like that to be highly intelligent or talented than the backward community). So a large group of people in this country won't get govt job or not able get into top academic institutions. This will create inequality. It may create violation (eg. Maoist) and they may demand for a separate country for them. India will split into pieces. The only solution to cut the reservation is system of marriage should not be based on cast. But how many forward casts are willing to marry from sc/st. No one or may be one percentage. So the reservation should be exist till the system of marriages based on cast changes completely.

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Manasn said: (Thu, May 10, 2012 06:34:28 PM)    
 
A smoker will never say that the cigarette is bad but the people who knows that it is bad they says it is bad.

Like that the person who has got the benefit of this reservation system they will never say that it should be removed but they are not thinking about the poor people of the general category.

Reservation should not be there rather then the emphasis should be given on talent.

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Deepak Vishwakarma said: (Mon, Apr 30, 2012 09:07:50 AM)    
 
Because of social advantages only 20-25% of population (so called upper castes) is dominating all spheres. This whole screwed Vedic system is bullshit. When we obc's are the most populous section in india, we deserve 2 get more than we are getting. And govt has 2 give us our right and if reservation is d mean so be it. And those barking against it why nt give up there 100% reservation in temples nd other shops of religion.

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Jyoti said: (Wed, Apr 25, 2012 09:47:49 PM)    
 
Hi everyone, according to my opinion reservation should be removed from every field because it hides the real talent sometime. If government really wants to help the people they must do financial help to the poor people who have great talent but financially week and can't take admission. If in medical field a student who is not talented but because of reservation take admission in good medical college he become a doctor without knowledge and it will be very dangerous for patient.

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Ravi said: (Thu, Apr 19, 2012 10:55:15 AM)    
 
I think it is not a good way to provide reservation in higher education.

All students should be treated equal.

To destruct the barrier between haves and have-nots, FINANCIAL support can be given to the backward classes but not reservation in education.

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Priyanka said: (Thu, Apr 12, 2012 08:36:55 PM)    
 
Hi guys. Currency authority function of the central bank. It is the same thing as note issuing function of the central bank. In all countries the central bank has the sole authority of issuing note you know this or not guys.

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Priyanka Sharma said: (Thu, Apr 12, 2012 08:08:50 PM)    
 
Removing caste system is very crucial. Every one know this there is no result towards casts today middle class children more sacrifice then the ST SC and OBC but when middle class student got 80 or above % then only get admission in good collage but OBC got 60 max. Why so we want opposes this and get equality among all. Written by priyanka sharma.

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Sona said: (Tue, Apr 3, 2012 12:31:13 AM)    
 
20 years back, reservation was needed for the upliftment of the poor sections of the society when they are not allowed to enter in the temples and they cannot fulfill there basic requirements due to low income. Now the scenario has changed, they are treated equally to the unreserved categories and SC/ST/OBC are more richer to many unreserved category people! so there is no need of reservation in present days. The need is to value the potential and intelligence of the hard working students and not to value the caste!

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Areesh said: (Fri, Mar 9, 2012 04:51:53 PM)    
 
My Dear Friends.

Before speaking against the reservation, one should know why reservations are implemented. You can find reservations in so many developed countries in the name of "affirmative action" (United States of America). I want to clarify one thing to all who opposed reservations. In India 80 percentage population belongs to sc/st/obc. Lower castes. And 20 percent belongs to upper caste. Now tell me in all major institutions in India like JNU, HCU, DU, AIIMS, IIMC, and IIT: how many obc/dalit faculties and students are there and how many upper caste people are there ? The 20 percent people dominating in all sectors like politics, sports, education, culture and economy. Reservations are implementing to bring social justice and equality. In India on the basis of there caste people are not allowing to get good education, they are facing humiliation in higher educational institutions. If it possible please watch documentaries (film) : India untouched, death of merit and devadasi. If you oppose reservations then you have to tell how you will annihilate caste system in India. What about the atrocities on dalit women and communities. Recently in odissa so many dalith houses were burnt. What about that?, The lower class people not allowed to temples why?, How many lower caste people became as a prime minister of India ?. Dear Brothers and sisters we are not beggars reservation is our right.

We need reservation. It is our right.

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Diganta said: (Tue, Mar 6, 2012 09:09:27 PM)    
 
Everyone has the right to get into higher education and as Indian population is made up of different categories of people, all the categories has equal rights to get higher education. So in my opinion reservation for all categories of people is a must. The percentage of reservation is done based on the number of populations of different categories of people. The belief of the upward class of people that only the backward class of people living in cities and towns are only getting the benefits of reservation is not true. Many of the backward classes of people living in the cities and towns were living in remote/village areas before getting the chance due to reservation. One thing every upward class of people should know that backward class of peoples whose pay-scales fall under a certain range and who has enough property are excluded from this reservation.

Moreover, the students from backward categories of people are no less intelligent than there upward class counterparts, which they can see for themselves.

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Sreeram said: (Mon, Feb 27, 2012 12:00:20 PM)    
 
Providing reservations on basis of the caste is a lame thing !!!!!its creating the barrier for thee fundamental right rrigth to equality ... let me say a silly thing !in my constitution it's sc reserved so no other guy other than an sc should compete here !! how embrassing it is really !!!provide reservation on the basis of financial condition and also on the physically challenged !!that will take india a notch above what it is now !! according to abdul kalam in European union..

Where there is righteousness in the heart
There is beauty in the character.
When there is beauty in the character,
there is harmony in the home.
When there is harmony in the home.
There is an order in the nation.
When there is order in the nation,
There is peace in the world.

Lets start by changigng our thinking ...we can make india a singapore!!

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Shivanshu said: (Fri, Feb 24, 2012 03:33:53 PM)    
 
Reservation should be stopped in my sense . THe guys who are doing the favour of reservation , anybody of them can tell me the name of any leader from sc/st background after B.R ambedkar ,,,,the ans is simply NO. because the feeling of competition is not comes in your mind because of this reservation.you know very well with least efforts you can easily par us(general category) by taking the help of reservation.
There are some who says that the sc/st/bc students also do well in exams thare is no doubt they do but they comes in the category of general allotment of seats, if they clear the general cutoff.
What is this again general category suffers .Actully there is a need to modify our reservation system .

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Indian said: (Mon, Feb 13, 2012 02:13:12 PM)    
 
Yes, reservations should be removed but what about the old devil "caste system". What is the solution for removing caste system and creating a socially equal society. I mean many people who really protest against reservations based on "caste system" still cling to caste based marriages when it comes to the case of their daughters or sisters or even themselves.

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Sujata said: (Sat, Feb 11, 2012 07:48:24 PM)    
 
Alright friends. Here I am want to share some of my thoughts regarding this matter. Surely reservation is not a good idea. For a democratic country we need and in fact we right to have euality. And this reservation surely ruins taleneted brain causing brain drain. But my question is after removing this reservation will we get equal respect in other aspects of life also. Will a brahmin guy marry a SC or even a ST girl? Obviously I am not talking about the love marrieges, I mean arranged marriage. In marriage why we still see caste? I have a personal experience regarding this fact during my sister's marriage. Two to three proposals had been cancelled for this reason. If reservation has to be removed from education then first of all it should be removed from our mind and heart. People should be broad mined like other developed countries. Unless and untill it won't be removed from our soul, reservation always remain as it is.

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Prashant said: (Fri, Feb 3, 2012 04:40:26 PM)    
 
When constitution was made, at that time it was real fact that there were absolutely very less chances for lower caste students. But today the situation is completely reversed. Also,the view of politicians is very selfish.So that ,now amendment is very necessary in the constitution about removal of reservations in the education as well as in service sector & the preference should be given to the talents in the student rather than the caste he belongs to.

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Priya said: (Fri, Jan 27, 2012 09:53:27 PM)    
 
Candidates having 40-50% at HSC get admission based on caste for medical, least bothered to study minimum grasping power continue to be in college for n number of years and are out to play with the patients life. Who is responsible? caste based reservation by the government.

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Tushar Singh said: (Sun, Jan 22, 2012 06:03:37 PM)    
 
Yaah! I think its really ruin the life of those who are of general. And belongs to the poor background. And also it play a discrimination with the people who actually belongs to lower caste but some times they are not get reservation.

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Anshul Sahai said: (Thu, Jan 19, 2012 08:40:17 PM)    
 
'Right to equality'a fundamental right for every citizen but I think reservation creates discrimination and harms and spoil the real talent. If there is any place of reservation is on the basis of poverty. E. G-a boy who has 80% marks in diploma final year. He is from farmers family but he do not get admission in most reputed college but his friend whose father is civil engineer but from a backward class then due to yhis he get admission from goverment college.

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Manoj said: (Thu, Jan 19, 2012 06:45:05 PM)    
 
Reservation has become a big issue in elections in India. Political parties are using this issue for their benefit. They are not serious to provide good education and facilities to students they are only increasing the percentage of reservation. Now congress party wants to give reservation on the basis of religion. Because of reservation brilliants are not getting the seat or job in the required field the reservation should be removed from our education system and government must provide better education to all by improving the facilities in government schools and colleges. Now scenario is that poor people those lives in village and belong to backward classes are not taking benefit of this reservation. Only few who lives in cities are getting benefit for this reservation.

Is reservation in higher studies is the only alternative for social equality? and my mind says that definitely it works but it is ofcourse not only the alternative for social equality. Although social equality can be achieved by certain other means like demolishing the caste system of hierarchy from the society, providing equal opportunities to all people of a society at their working and living place so that they can earn and leave with dignity in their society, reserved education specially higher also plays a pivotal role but it might not be a single alternative. Because reserved education declines the quality of education, because a student in entrance ranked very poor, also gets chance for getting higher education in prestigious institutes, but there he further fails in getting proper perceptions of knowledge.

Poor and needy consists of people from different castes both backward and upper. Than for constructing one thing on the cost of destructing the another one is of course not a good idea, we can also achieve our goal via other ways overall we have options.

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Arpit Saxena said: (Thu, Jan 5, 2012 01:05:44 PM)    
 
"Right to Equality " is the fundamental right of every citizen of india but i think reservation creates a discrimination and harms and spoil the real talent ...if dere is any place of reservation then it only wud be on the basis of poverty...let me take an eg to support my views "IAS" & "CA" are the bigest examination conducted by india having no reservation..so if u have guts and talent then proove your worth by your actions not on the basis of reservations....say no to reservation....

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Rocky said: (Wed, Jan 4, 2012 12:20:38 AM)    
 
Now our country is spoiled by this reservation system. I want to tell all of general category people of this country that will come out and stand aganist it like anna. I tell to you that you all will write a letter to the prime minister of this India and tell him that we also citizen of this country and we also have a right of benefits of reservation. So please convert unreserve category to reserve category of upper caste.

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Sagar R.Kachhadiya said: (Sat, Dec 3, 2011 04:35:33 PM)    
 
Reservation is one of the main reason of Indian bad culture. Reservation is not so good at all level. On the past time reservation is made for poor people equality and only for a some time of period. And no one can tell about anyone who are poor and who are rich. So it should remove. Now a time people from backward class lead the general category by they getting benefits at all. So general category people and students suffer from that and loss some of their claim which should be get to them. In the education, reservation is so bad. Some general category students from common family can not get chance and not get admission for further study even if they get good percentage. If government help to the backward class people, then they should help with the help of money, they should not give reserve seat for them so that general category student remain from their claim to get admission.

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Kamalendu said: (Mon, Nov 7, 2011 02:12:00 PM)    
 
If we all are one caste then why it is not applicable for all place.It is all because of politics.All facility given to the backward caste.From seat reservation in govt. service to admission in colleges.If govt. really want to dissolve castism then lift quota system.Select merit basis. we all appreciate the decision of the govt.

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Rajeev said: (Fri, Oct 21, 2011 12:14:23 AM)    
 
Hi its me Rajeev.

''ALL THE CITIZENS OF A STATE CANNOT BE EQUALLY POWERFUL, BUT THEY MAY BE EQUALLY FREE'' by Voltaire. Social equality can be best defined as social state of affairs in which all peoples have same status in a society.

And here the question asks, Is reservation in higher studies is the only alternative for social equality? and my mind says that definitely it works but it is ofcourse not only the alternative for social equality. Although social equality can be achieved by certain other means like demolishing the caste system of hierarchy from the society, providing equal opportunities to all people of a society at their working and living place so that they can earn and leave with dignity in their society, reserved education specially higher also plays a pivotal role but it might not be a single alternative. Because reserved education declines the quality of education, because a student in entrance ranked very poor, also gets chance for getting higher education in prestigious institutes, but there he further fails in getting proper perceptions of knowledge.

Than for constructing one thing on the cost of destructing the another one is ofcourse not a good idea, we can also achieve our goal via other ways overall we have options. We can go for creating a powerful law in our constitution which have proper potential to curb the caste system from the society and also the important thing is to aware the people specially rural ones that this caste system makes only hollows in the society despite of strengthen them.

THANKYOU.

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Sandeep said: (Mon, Oct 10, 2011 11:56:53 PM)    
 
According to me god has created people not the caste. 2nd thing we were the people who divided ourselves into different classes and communities.

But being in 21st century and this scientific and technological time should we need to have a word like 'caste' ?

Our constitution gives the right of equality which considers all persons equal in front of it. So why the word caste still lies in our society?

As we have been entered into an ideological world so we must devise a planning which gives the equality on the basis of economy of people and not the caste.

Yes indeed there are still castes which need reforms and need to stand in soceity but there are also people in other classes also (as a whole) but I think these people should given a name 'needy class' which should include all needy person on the basis of their need, help and condition. That would be better alternative.

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Rashi Singh said: (Sun, Oct 9, 2011 08:08:46 PM)    
 
Hello everyone, Like many of you even I have suffered because of this Reservation (kotta). Few years back I have heard a low class (backward) people fighting over a words of a song from movie AAJA NACHLE. They claim that the words of that song are not justified. They feel insulted when they are being referred as low class. Even some them has said that "don't treat us as low class. ". But its so funny that when it comes to the reservation they openly come to the government n ask for the reservation. If they want equality then what is a point of reservation? The two people from different cast get equal number of marks should be treated equally then this whole cast discrimination can be stopped.

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Sangram said: (Thu, Sep 29, 2011 08:08:47 PM)    
 
I am from farmers family. I got more than 80%marks in diploma final year but I don't get admission in most reputed college but my friend whose father is civil engineer but he was from bacward classes then due to this he get admission for goverment college.

Us this justice?

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Shibani said: (Tue, Sep 27, 2011 08:30:23 PM)    
 
Well, we just can't say that like coin everything has two sides. Is there any benefit of smoking or drinking liquor? but those who smoke or drink will say they are getting benefitted from them they will make lame excuses. The same is here those who are getting benefitted from the policy of reservation will never speak ill about it. But sensible people can't take this issue with ease. It is ruining our society and the definition of equality.

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Samir M said: (Thu, Sep 22, 2011 01:23:39 AM)    
 
Like coin everything have two side, similarly their is some benifit and drawback in existing quota based reservation policy based on caste. But if we analysis it by comparing ourself from the root cause of this social inequality, we would find caste based reservation system is required to equalize the social status between backward catagoy (reserved catagory) with unreserved catagory.

So I requested to not comment on Dr B. Are Ambedkar for his work, because I know India will never get such a talent artitecture for sambidhan in future. Ambedkar is that person who fought for the justice of untouchbility as a real human can do.

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Shibani said: (Mon, Sep 19, 2011 03:47:47 PM)    
 
Backward people doesn't refer to poorer section of the society as poor and needy consists of people from different castes both backward and upper. Some says reservation is beneficial for the people of villages. It's not true that villages consists of only backward class people or poor people. Then what about poor general students of villages who have knOwledge but no money. Aren't they the sufferer. So If there is reservation it should not be on the basis of caste but on the basis of poverty. It's the poorer section of the society who can't afford quality education so for them there should be scholarship program and free coaching class program from the government and no reservation system.

Reservation makes one of the fundamental right of our constitution false that is "Right To Equality". Yes it's bringing inequality to the society. If all people are treated equally then why reservation ?let all to come out and feel the taste of competition. Some one said about history. Yes in past backward classes suffered a lot. Isn't reservation repeating past. Early backward classes were the sufferer and now the general. Should we repeat the same mistake of our forefather? The time, when the constitution was written by B. Are Ambedkar was completely different from current time. So I strongly believe that it should be rewritten.

I also want to highlight that because of reservation the quality of doctors, engineers and other professionals is falling down which is very dangerous for the progress of our country. Development of our country can be achieved only by the uplift of all the sections of the society irrespective of cast, creed and colour. Knowledge and hard work should be valued not caste.

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Neha said: (Mon, Sep 19, 2011 10:00:51 AM)    
 
Hi friends,

What I wonder is why reservation related to caste is always highlighted as per my knowledge there is reservation for single girl child, kashmiri migrants and many more i.e. even some general categories one also get reservation. But the main issue is that reservation is not the solution for any social equality and reservation is widening differences between people. Castism was, is and will remain problem for India. Reservation is not the solution but is the problem for castism. Time has changed a lot and if our honorable politicians really want to uplift any class to whom reservation is provided this can be done by raising their standard of competition.

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Sakshi said: (Sat, Sep 3, 2011 10:50:14 PM)    
 
Not exactly I will say that reservation is the only option to get equality. But peoples must think that why reservation is here in education system. ? no one knows the history before 50 to 60 years, the who are from backword classes hav sufferd a lot of things lot of inequalities at every case. And they were dominated by all such higher categories like brahmins. So I would like ask where was gone equality and why. ? peoples from lower categories didn't hav a right to educate, even they dnt hav right to drink water from same rivers. No one hav ever got humanity behaviour with them. Minority peoples hav suffered a lot at that time dats why Dr. Ambedkar didn't wanted to happen this again. And for getting equals to all peoples he has given this act.

Nw a dayss evry1 jst say that why these peoples getting reservations and why we not. So my request to all those peoples jst go throuh the history of backword class. Then say.

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Prerana said: (Sun, Aug 7, 2011 01:41:38 PM)    
 
First think why this caste based reservation system ? this way we are segregating the community into sections in-short on political front 'DIVIDE AND RULE' and our politicians are successful in doing this. There should be reservation but only on the basis of Monetary Status - a poor should be given opportunity/benefits so that they can come at par with well to do. By caste basis reservation, we are creating different sections and negative feelings for each other. Whereas, if there will be monetary basis reservation then people know the valid reason behind it and they will be encouraged to help the underprivileged ones without any negative feelings.

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Mridul said: (Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:33:26 PM)    
 
Reservation the most political and social problem that India faces.

"Right to equality " the right which is given to the Indian citizen does reservation follows this right.

Reservation must be their but on the poverty basis not on the castism.

But in India this castesim is the hottest topic of politics which the politician never want it to be get out of India.

Let take an example that their are two shedule families one is rich having a good gov job and provide a good quality of education to their children and one is poor family and can't afford the good sevices of education for their children.

Now if in any exam the son of richer family got less mark and the son of poor family got 1-2 marks less the son of richer one and would be out of selection. Is that right?

And richer family son get selected due to resevation even he gets the best education. Is that right?

Give your views my friends.

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Piyush Patil said: (Tue, Jul 26, 2011 09:20:01 AM)    
 
Hi guys.

Reservations must b given to those needed. And scholarships are also for those needed and for some extend it is right, but there must not b cast reservations in cut-off for colleges. Due to this the students of lower cast will have more benifits even with no knowledge which is not fair with open cast students. Cut-off must b even for all cast in anywayswhich will b really benificial for India. Due to cut-off students with deserving knowledge are not given fair chance, due to this all the work is in mess. For eg. Constructers in delhi didn't even know how to build a flyover and started construction, and due to which it fell and many people died which all wer workers and not the engineering.

So people government should stop the cut-off system for cast and must give fair chance to all students. This could really take further our tallent in people of India.

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Ram said: (Wed, Jul 20, 2011 01:17:26 PM)    
 
Look reservation is must but only till the point it is benefiting some one who really needs is. Cast based reservation is not a answer to current problems. E.g. As SC a student who is studying in a very good public school by paying Rs5000 per month as a fee and later claims for reservation in higher education and jobs . . of course not right.

Problem states incapability of government to deal with this sensitive issue of not providing quality education and proper job opportunity.

Now problem is how to find financial condition of a person as lot of people who have their business/shops states their wrong income(which of course cause lot of tax loss to govt.) And there is no way to find their right income(As income certificates can easily be made by giving Rs200 to you local tehsil guys ).

I think one solution can be only those (financially lower)students must be given reservation which are studying in government schools. And this will also make a profound improvement in educational system of India. As people pressure will cause them to improve.

Another issue one can claim reservation only once either in job or education.



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Rachna Malodia said: (Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:58:09 PM)    
 
My dear frnds for all those who are saying that backward candidates should be helped out by giving money and not by giving admission in the higher education school, i ask them, will you give your money to me for getting admission in the private school.

please keep in mind that every body has capability but the only difference is that you need proper and right guidance for nurturing your skill and knowledge which the backward classes don't have. if they are provided with equal facilities as general classes students then surely they don't need any reservation.

if a gernal candidate is get admitted in college of his choice then does he blaim the reservation system and y not the other people who got admission(bcoz they got higher marks them him)..
and yes ofcourse with help of reservation system the India is developing because the no. of backward classes people is much much more then "non reserved classes". so for the development of the country, government should keep the system of reservation at the higher education level for motivating them.
THE CASTE SYSTEM WAS NOT RAISED BY THE BACKWARD PEOPLE BUT BY THE "NON RESERVED PEOPLE" WHO HAD CATEGORISED PEOPLE ON THE BASIS OF THEIR WORK.... MIND IT

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Janaki said: (Sat, May 21, 2011 03:36:34 AM)    
 
Can any one of you all provide the proves of backward classes in cities are only getting benefited to this reservation schemes... if you... then show me.

But the fact is backward classes of villages are also getting benefited with this and they are doing their best can you show who belongs to upper class are doing their best every time, as you all stated that students/people who are able to deserve for some thing are not getting that, if it is true I. E they are if really talented they surely gets their way, blaming of rising of the backward classes show their untalent skill.

Remember one thing that backward classes of cities are benefited by this reservation schemes only and all of they may not have their own properties they all may be developed as employers only.

One person from one backward class family is not sufficient to get rid of their sufferings.

And who said that students from backward classes entering into higher education through reservations are not hard working.

Let me say you one thing a person from such a backward class how can he get all the materials to work hard for getting such a top rank in rxams if he is given a chance like this way then he could develop himself slowly then his area too in such a way surely our villages and country develops.

My sincere request is to understand all kinds of people and if really the person is talented<upward> then he surely deserves it.

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Rsaasd said: (Sat, May 7, 2011 07:15:00 AM)    
 
No, it is not the way, we can encourage socially backward people by helping with money, by providing free education. Actually because of this reservation system many students getting loss. For example if a student in any competitive exam (like Eamset, Icet) got good rank also not getting seat in the desired college even a reservation candidate can get seat wherever he or she wants.

We should encourage the poor and backward people considering their merit in studies then only education system can produce best knowledged persons.

So In my point of view it is not the way to show social equality.

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Abhimanyu C. said: (Thu, Apr 21, 2011 12:22:55 AM)    
 
I think that the quota of reservation is only increasing rather than decreasing. The politicians have dragged it too long just for gaining votes. But this problem cannot be solved overnight and so I think that the first step for the government to do is to abolish all forms of reservation above the graduation level. Every body in India should get equal opportunity to compete and it can only be done if nobody in this country gets reservation apart from physically disabled and economically backward classes.

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Kuldeep said: (Tue, Apr 19, 2011 08:28:05 AM)    
 
My friend, if you will see people who are serving on high post like professor, ias, ies, doctors prominently most of them belong to general category, so you can asses the possession of those cast in our administration, education and society. If government will not take any any action to improve the status of low caste people I think this situation will prevail for next 100 year. Because most of family who belong to backward caste they are impecunious and can not afford money for coaching for various entrance exam like IIT, medical institute. If general candidate are so bother about the reservation there is one more option they can keep the seat of general student as it was and increase the seats for backward student. The development of India would not be possible until or unless the development of those backward classes.

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Raju said: (Fri, Mar 4, 2011 06:38:54 AM)    
 
Hai friends. I think reservation is not needed in education. Because in the top colleges many merit students are not getting seats because of reserverved seats. This is not the way to encourage them. Politicans are playing drama to get the votes. In the present days reservations are needed not for the backward class but for the poor people who are really unable take education.

If one person belonging to backward community and the other person belonging to OC got the equal marks then government can give the seat to the person belonging to the backward community. India is still developing country because the merit is not getting opportunities.

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Rupesh said: (Wed, Feb 23, 2011 08:51:38 AM)    
 
Dear friends, reservation in world perspective is affirmative action, but constitutional point of view reservation in higher education is social representation for marginalized communities only because of social indifference. Our constitution say to bring equality the principle of inequality is to apply, these peoples if we have to bring the level of general we have to give opportunity to built the confidence in there community and develop the interest in education. Reservation is not concept of merit but is of justice.

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Leelesh said: (Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:38:41 AM)    
 
This is 21st century and most are aware of social economy and cultural barriers, there should b equality not reservation. This makes rational changes among the society concerned, 90% of people change their religions to backward categories like (SC, ST, OBC) this influence others to have the benefit of the system. Only they are influenced about this reservation. Change the system of reservation treat every one based on their knowledge and effective skill and talents. Please do apply this to all our INDIAN system.

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Tandia said: (Mon, Feb 7, 2011 03:56:39 PM)    
 
Every one is just concerned about the reservation in education field. But the matter of fact is that when the reservation will be removed. It will simply hamper and deteriorate the condition of those unprivileged sects who are still barred from the benefits of reservation. (and the fact is that they still don't know about any thing like reservation & it's benefits). If every one is thinking about equality then why a mass number of them are still unprivileged. (can say they not at all equal among commons). Those who are getting reservation are very small percentage. Compared to the mass numbers. Yet to be developed.

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Ankita said: (Sun, Feb 6, 2011 04:31:39 AM)    
 
I am also against the reservation. Because its completely ruining the future of India. And through this the politicians are entering into the education for the sake of "VOTES". im completely against this. : (.

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Deepak said: (Sun, Jan 30, 2011 11:05:43 AM)    
 
No, I think it increasing inequality in higher level education. We shoud avoid it as possibe and find out ways like quality improvement programe for backward to incourage theme so this will also maintains level of our education.

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Ravindra Singh Mehta said: (Wed, Jan 26, 2011 09:28:24 AM)    
 
Dear Friends, I am also strongly oppose the reservation policy that is being provided by our govt., It is just a term that is used by them to increase their vote bank.

In practical the reservation is limited to a few people those who lives in city and who knows how to get benefit of all these. A person who lives in village and really needs this reservation is not getting it.

This is not what Dr. Ambedkar had thought and started the reservation for the deprived, lower and backward classes.

If the govt wants to make India a developed country then it should change the criteria for giving the reservation. It should only be a mean of helping the needy ones and not the persons who are already in a position that they can afford anything they need.

So, as a concluding part reservation should only be limited to the people who really need it and it should be reduced every year and finally stopped so that the spirit of competition increases between the people and only deserving candidate get the position. it will finally help India to become a developed country and complete the Kalam's Vision 2020....

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Lokesh Jain said: (Mon, Jan 10, 2011 09:32:56 AM)    
 
I am very against for reservation. It is not reducing the gap between the caste but also widening the gap between the society and caste. I agree with that in old era upper class did not consider lower class equally and they deprived them from the facility which other class were enjoying. but the time has changed. educated people numbers has been increased and they do not care about religion matters. They know that only the hard work and smart work should be considerable. The growth of company,country and social is only depend upon the effort.

Now scenario is that poor people those lives in village and belong to backward classes are not taking benefit of this reservation. Only few who lives in cities are getting benefit for this reservation.They are not only getting benefit in one education aspect but also getting in every aspect like jobs, age relaxation, form fee relaxation, promotions. So the village's sc,st and obc people is not getting benefits. This means that only one part of that classes is increasing their social status and others are not.

And this gives also making the gap wider between the society. If govt. really want to reduce this gap, he should give the reservation but one time in one family.Like if there are 2 child and his mother father in one family, govt. should give the reservation only one time to one member. Do not give them series of reservation as govt. give them 1st in education ,fee, higher studies then in job,age and then in promotion. And govt. should also decrease the percentage of reservation instead of increase. Its result will be really eradicate the gap because everyone has chance to get this benefit.

Because of the reservation the intelligent level of obc, sc,st will not be developed. They know that they will be selected and there is no need for hard work. So they did not study hard and this will bring indirectly effect of not develop the country with proper pace.

Please stop this.



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Akhom Kachari said: (Thu, Nov 25, 2010 11:38:01 AM)    
 
Reservations should be stopped in my sense in regarding to caste/sex. Although this reservation was thought to bring equilibrium among the society and to stop the forward/upper caste people to exploit the lower caste it is not so. Rather the gap is widening among them.

Ya some people have gained by reservations, but the natural competition mind has been lost by these people. They think they would get easily, so the risk is less and there is less struggle. ST/SC/OBC are not born without any merit in their brain, all that needs is struggle.

If they struggle they would succeed more and challenge the merit ones (who think themselves so). So what is needed is to motivate the backward classes towards education than reservation ! Rise ST/SC/OBC/MOBC Rise.

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Naidu Garu said: (Sat, Oct 23, 2010 05:51:07 AM)    
 
Not at all required. Because of reservation brilliants are not getting the seat or job in the required field the reservation should be removed from our education system. For the social equity we can go for other things like providing money, showing special interest in their education etc. Persons with efforts more than backward classes are getting wasted due to reservations.

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Suhail said: (Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:53:01 AM)    
 
According to me reservations in higher is not at all bridging the gap between all social classes, rather its widening the gap. Students are not getting paid for their hard work and perseverance. There is no harm in reserving seats for them but the marks cut off should be increased at same time. They should also be expected to score more in order to get the reserved seat.

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Xavier said: (Wed, Oct 6, 2010 09:36:58 AM)    
 
It is one of the problems India is facing. Dr. Ambedkar has started this reservations in order to improve the backward people and can be removed, he taught. But our politicians for their own welfare will give all the oaths regarding elections and they does't fulfil it. No reservation is necessary in education.

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Guru said: (Mon, Jul 26, 2010 04:26:19 AM)    
 
No no it is not necessary, government has provided lot of reservation in not only in education but in job also, if provide reservation for socially backward they will get seats and anything easily without any risk but real risk of students which are not backward get wasted when they will not get seat.
Let us think in exam same questions are given to all the students know, if any hard and tuf paper is given to that backward students and easy paper is given to other students, not all know so in same case when giving seats also give it according to rank not in form of reservation.

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Sujatha said: (Fri, Jul 23, 2010 06:48:23 AM)    
 
No, it is not the way, we can encourage socially backward people by helping with money,by providing free education. Actually because of this reservation system many students getting loss. For example if a student in any comptetive exam(like Eamset,Icet) got good rank also not getting seat in the desired college even a reservation candidate can get seat wherever he or she wants.

We should encourage the poor and backward people considering their merit in studies then only education system can produce best knowledged persons.
So In my point of view it is not the way to show social eqality.

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Priyanka said: (Fri, Jul 2, 2010 06:05:34 AM)    
 
No.It's not correct.

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